Purpose
This mod restores three spawngroups that Overkill accidentally deleted from the game.
Normally, there are four: tac_swat_rifle, tac_swat_shotgun_rush, tac_swat_shotgun_flank, and tac_swat_rifle_flank. These each have their own roles (i.e. the two flanking ones are meant to flank the players, both rifle ones tend to keep their distance more, and both shotgun groups are meant to rush the player). However, due to what I can only assume is lazy copy pasting, the first three groups are immediately deleted after they are defined, meaning that they never spawn in. So if you've ever wondered why the enemies are very samey and do weird stuff, it's because they're all trying to flank you.
This mod copies over the definitions of these groups from the game files but removes the table redeclarations, allowing them to spawn once again (it also modifies the spawning frequency of each group, as it seems those frequencies were made with the broken spawns in mind and thus fixing it makes specials almost never spawn). Note that this is based on the last decompiled version of the Payday 2 lua code at the time this mod was made, so if overkill does make any changes to those missing spawngroups (for whatever reason), or just the spawngroups in general, this mod may no longer apply.
Other fixes
As an aside, this mod also fixes three other things. The gensec elite enemies on Mayhem and Death Wish now use the correct shotgunner models with their unique m1014s (there was no reason to keep the boring current shotgunners as their statistics are identical and they are harder to differentiate compared to the unique models). The shotgunner murkywater heavies are also fixed on the same two difficulties, as they previously just used the normal gensec heavies for whatever reason. And a typo in the taser flanking tactics is fixed so they should hopefully actually flank now.
Note that these are the only fixes I have made. Death Sentence does not have shotgunners because there are no zeal shotgun units, I assume because they encountered this bug and didn't bother to make any. So all four groups will have rifles (however medics still wield shotguns and the groups will still have the rushing behaviour). While I could have added murkywater shotgunners for DS on murkywater levels, I did not because they have ridiculous damage scaling and are not defined in the files. Both the Russian and zombie factions do have shotgunner units defined for DS so I left those intact. The Federales faction also has shotgunners defined, but specifically for heavies only, so that has been left intact too.
Very unlikely that either of my mods are compatible, however they're not really necessary as streamlined heisting has it's own similar functionality.
I have been modifying this mod's files and I found a way to add the UMP Gensec guys to Mayhem and Deathwish. If you're interested, I can show you the code.
EDIT: Nevermind. I released my own mod that has this feature.
It's all good, I wasn't planning to add that to this mod anyway. I was more likely going to make either a custom spawngroups mod, and/or a mayhem-specific rebalance that utilised them since that difficulty is practically useless currently.
I've tried every single assault tweak that ever existed including the ones I edited myself and non of them have been this aggressive with FSS. Have you written the behaviuour code from scratch?
You can check the source code for this mod. It's a minor group tweak and nothing else.
This mod only restores groups that Overkill themselves intended to spawn, however in the future I may make a custom spawngroups mod that includes them.
Probably? I'll have to test it, the US marshalls might not work but until someone makes a newer decompile of the lua there's nothing I'll be able to do to fix it.
Hi , i enjoy the new tactics and the shotgunners but does it lower the spawn cap? It feels like it does but maybe its just in my head. Cheers
It should not do so in theory but I definitely feel like I noticed the same thing? Couldn't figure out what it was, my best guess is that due to the enemies using more varied tactics they don't all get caught up in the same space and so it looks like there's less when there actually isn't.
just wondering if it happen to also spawn units like gensec submachinegunner on mayham+
This mod just fixes coding errors to make the spawngroups what overkill probably actually intended, however I do have some mods I'm working on that may include the submachinegunners in some way. It's tricky to reintroduce them because they deal less damage than riflemen on Death Wish while doing equal damage and having more DPS than them on Mayhem, due to Overkill's questionable balancing.
@staryoshi06 from my limited testing (using a trainer to spawn them) they don't seem as broken as compact5 armed enemies like blue swats or FBI HRT, so maybe adding them to shotgun squads? i have 0 idea about coding but if there is a dedicated number of enemies for shotgun group, will it be possible to have 50% chance for them to replace a shotgunner on mayham and death wish?
also overkill questionable coding, is it just me, or murkies seem to be overall more lethal with JP36 compared to gensec? heavy murky rifleman seem to get avrage of 50+ kills while gensec heavy rifleman can't seem to kill anything.
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The G36 deals 30 base damage, however on Mayhem specifically it is changed to 10, the same as the car-4. This means that in terms of enemy threat – other than doubled health values and lack of medium/heavy hurt animations – Mayhem is effectively the same as Overkill.
Now, keep in mind that this damage is only changed on Mayhem. So, on Overkill, the G36 still deals 30 base damage. And the murkywater heavies use G36s on Overkill, while the normal fbi heavy swat just use car-4s. That's why the murky heavies seem so effective.
Also the reason that the gensec lights don't do ridiculous damage is because they are city_swat and city_swat don't scale in damage, they are always "good" in terms of their internal experience, which is what mostly determines their damage.
I am thinking of making a mod in the future that adds new spawngroups with more interesting tactical variety, so that may include some SMG squads. I may also just release one that fixes the G36 damage on Mayhem and makes it so that all of the light riflemen use SMGs instead. Idk.
Yeah, I had it enabled pretty much most of the time I was testing it. I made sure both were compatible since I'd be using both myself :P
@staryoshi06 It's just that after several checks on the complexity of Overkill, Normal and Death Wish (I didn't check on the others), I noticed that on the first two there are much more kight and heavy swat with a shotgun than with a Car-4, while on Death Wish are moderately
@Nekit It's most likely just random chance, sometimes the game tends to pick a lot of the same task. You can check the task data yourself if you want, they all have roughly the same chance on every difficulty.
Not significantly. DS doesn't have shotgun enemies (except for certain alternate factions) so the main difference is that half of the enemies won't be using the flank tactic and half of them will attempt to rush you (those halves not being mutually exclusive).
Likely it'll just make it a richer experience with some more variety in enemy tactics rather than them all piling up in one area.
@staryoshi06 I've tried it now and I enjoyed it. Got caught off guard and overwhelmed a few times when I played with AI lol. Definitely has reduced the amount of cops that just kinda sit around and stare into nothingness.
To anyone who downloaded this mod before this comment was made, I accidentally didn't include the auto-updating in the mod.txt. So if you want auto-updates you'll need to redownload it (although there likely won't be many).
Excellent mod thanks, dude I hope you have cool mods coming out next good luck to you!
ey mate, just asking if this mod gets in conflict with this one https://modworkshop.net/mod/29175
nice mod btw, always loved the shotgunner model for every cop
Looked at the code. It theoretically works but the mod you're linking completely redefines the spawngroups anyway so there's not much reason to use this one alongside it.
Thank you for this. I've always wanted this exact mod but the ones that restored these spawngroups had too many gameplay changing elements that would make it easier.
Hey Are You Still Active
I Have A Question , Can You Make this mod Compatible with reworked enemy ai mod?
You'll have to be more specific.