Ban NGBTDW from the site (my findings)
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I would like to hold a petition and if you want to hate on me, if you like the mod this isn't the place to do it. I simply want to know who on the website wants to see NGBTDW get taken off the site for singling out players that aren't even doing any harm to the game like myself and getting kicked out of lobbies for bullshit reasons. Basically I am fed up with getting kicked from lobbies for my equipment, and my armor, and my deployables and pretty much any reason people can get to kick me. Then i have to spend the next 5-10 minutes if its my friend explaining them what happened and to unblacklist me before I unfriend them on steam for them letting it happen and downloading this abomination. All I want is responses an open discussion here. Also how i would be able to get a petition going so this mod never comes back to the site, because its griefing.

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Sorry to hear about the trouble it has caused you.
Would you mind linking me to the mod?

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I do agree the mod ruins the community in pd2 but even so people will be able to find the mod using other sources sadly.

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There's the mod
https://modworkshop.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14571

I do use it myself, but only set it for playtime hour filter when playing DW heist.

The other setting is pretty much more to griefing ability.

Have you tried contacting the author and voicing your feedback?

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i will get the author to take a look at this
considering his busy with uni, he most likely wont do anything

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What Problem of this NGBTDW ?

is good mod but 2 things

Good = Kick Noobs and Wankers

Bad = NGBTDW + Better Bots = Bots using baby Masks

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Kicking new players is good? huh that only makes pd2 unwelcome to new players.

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Kicking new players is good? huh that only makes pd2 unwelcome to new players.
so you want to play one down with 20 hour players?
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would be better if instead of kicks the lobby wouldnt show up to the specified people.

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Bad = NGBTDW + Better Bots = Bots using baby Masks

Its so annoying... Is there a way to fix it without uninstalling the mods?

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Bad = NGBTDW + Better Bots = Bots using baby Masks


Its so annoying... Is there a way to fix it without uninstalling the mods?

having the mod author not be a baby would be a start

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it is gud mod yes? we keep ngbtdw as is, i honestly dont see why it would be "harmful"
if u wana play pubs u should already have being kicked in mind, because unreasonable hosts
the mod just ends up saving host the hassle of restarting 40 times because someone walked into a set of bright red lazers


Kicking new players is good? huh that only makes pd2 unwelcome to new players.

see eh..... the whole "unwelcome" only applies to "higher difficulties" like one down and that is no playground "new players" shouldn't have access to that and yet i get 3 level 40s joining my hotline Miami with ECMs and asking "stelf?"
by that point there is no real point in keeping them around
see what i mean?

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Thanks for the responses, If we keep ngbtdw as it is we will have even more problems. I'm calling for an outright ban of it right now because it is hating on new players, its not giving myself any ability to get into a lobby with some rediculous hour cap or just people that don't want to have people in their lobby. Here's an idea make the lobby private if you want to be a douchebag. As far as getting lower levels in lobbies. I know people lower level better then my friends that have played since beta. You can't hate on someone for their level. The reason though is if this isnt changed the keeping people out for their perk deck, their skills, their armor, ect. then its going to break the game beyond repair.

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its pretty clear you want it removed because you personally dont like it, instead of it breaking rules

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Ruins other people experience ? Breaks rules. The end.

so can the kick button. are we banning that too?

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yet people are going to do it anyway, this mod just does it for them
blame the player, not the tool

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Ruins other people experience ? Breaks rules. The end.


so can the kick button. are we banning that too?



I never knew the kick button was a mod.
I never knew kicking people because they play unusual perk decks was a base game feature


yet people are going to do it anyway, this mod just does it for them
blame the player, not the tool


I can't deal with this logic
So uh
Cheats should be allowed
Because cheats aren't bad, but cheaters are. Is that it ? (It is.)
Hey everyone
let's upload cheats
and blame other people


Let's upload dikc pix
after all
it's the people
not the content
right?
because a lobby management tool is the same thing as a cheat nice slippery slope
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i agree with Ellie here the mod is just used to save hosts that want to get things done(one down masks dont come easy)
things is, if u screw up a run the host will kick u and inexperience causes screw ups, the mod simply saves the host some time (check user's steam profile seeing oh hay look this dude has 10 hours in the game and is already attempting one down)
then again, if u dont wana get kicked why not just host?

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I think NGBTDW problem will be gone if it have no other setting to block ppl like deployable, perk deck, armor, etc

And just leave out hour filter and the essential that keeps new player from ruining a DW/1D public heist.

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i agree with Ellie here the mod is just used to save hosts that want to get things done(one down masks dont come easy)
things is, if u screw up a run the host will kick u and inexperience causes screw ups, the mod simply saves the host some time (check user's steam profile seeing oh hay look this dude has 10 hours in the game and is already attempting one down)
then again, if u dont wana get kicked why not just host?


Being against something doesn't mean you're concerned. I always host or play with friends. I'm against ngowotowoerqwfhxbcdw because it's against the rules. Ruinning someone's experience, that is.
people are selfish. as for it ruining other people's experience, its again a tool that serves as the host to make his life easier, if the host dosnt want to play with people that run around with ICTV and rouge its his choice

in my honest opinion ovk decided to give the host power thus this is just a mod that uses that power to its maximum potential, if ovk one day remove the kick feature then we can pick bones with NGBTDW


I think NGBTDW problem will be gone if it have no other setting to block ppl like deployable, perk deck, armor, etc

And just leave out hour filter and the essential that keeps new player from ruining a DW/1D public heist.

if u are gona change anything just ask him to make it so it dosnt insta kick but instead inform the host about why they should be kicked, easy as that, make everyone's day harder, host now has to press 3 extra buttons and the client now has to endure loading in to get kicked

i dont see any benefits to that to be honest but its really up to u

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So there's been a talk around the staff about this NGBTDW mod.
And the result is that the staff for now will not take any action. The mod could be better however.
It's a tool to help host filter out player, and host have all the power on their lobby. This mod is just streamlining the process of that.

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