Ban NGBTDW from the site (my findings)
#11
it is gud mod yes? we keep ngbtdw as is, i honestly dont see why it would be "harmful"
if u wana play pubs u should already have being kicked in mind, because unreasonable hosts
the mod just ends up saving host the hassle of restarting 40 times because someone walked into a set of bright red lazers

(12-01-2016, 08:50 AM)Luffy Wrote: Kicking new players is good? huh that only makes pd2 unwelcome to new players.

see eh..... the whole "unwelcome" only applies to "higher difficulties" like one down and that is no playground "new players" shouldn't have access to that and yet i get 3 level 40s joining my hotline Miami with ECMs and asking "stelf?"
by that point there is no real point in keeping them around
see what i mean?
SO WE DONE HERE!?!?!?
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#12
Thanks for the responses, If we keep ngbtdw as it is we will have even more problems. I'm calling for an outright ban of it right now because it is hating on new players, its not giving myself any ability to get into a lobby with some rediculous hour cap or just people that don't want to have people in their lobby. Here's an idea make the lobby private if you want to be a douchebag. As far as getting lower levels in lobbies. I know people lower level better then my friends that have played since beta. You can't hate on someone for their level. The reason though is if this isnt changed the keeping people out for their perk deck, their skills, their armor, ect. then its going to break the game beyond repair.
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#13
its pretty clear you want it removed because you personally dont like it, instead of it breaking rules
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#14
Ruins other people experience ? Breaks rules. The end.
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#15
i agree with Ellie here the mod is just used to save hosts that want to get things done(one down masks dont come easy)
things is, if u screw up a run the host will kick u and inexperience causes screw ups, the mod simply saves the host some time (check user's steam profile seeing oh hay look this dude has 10 hours in the game and is already attempting one down)
then again, if u dont wana get kicked why not just host?
SO WE DONE HERE!?!?!?
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#16
(12-05-2016, 04:23 AM)Mikuro Wrote: i agree with Ellie here the mod is just used to save hosts that want to get things done(one down masks dont come easy)
things is, if u screw up a run the host will kick u and inexperience causes screw ups, the mod simply saves the host some time (check user's steam profile seeing oh hay look this dude has 10 hours in the game and is already attempting one down)
then again, if u dont wana get kicked why not just host?

Being against something doesn't mean you're concerned. I always host or play with friends. I'm against ngowotowoerqwfhxbcdw because it's against the rules. Ruinning someone's experience, that is.
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#17
I think NGBTDW problem will be gone if it have no other setting to block ppl like deployable, perk deck, armor, etc

And just leave out hour filter and the essential that keeps new player from ruining a DW/1D public heist.
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#18
(12-05-2016, 09:42 PM)Nauotit Wrote:
(12-05-2016, 04:23 AM)Mikuro Wrote: i agree with Ellie here the mod is just used to save hosts that want to get things done(one down masks dont come easy)
things is, if u screw up a run the host will kick u and inexperience causes screw ups, the mod simply saves the host some time (check user's steam profile seeing oh hay look this dude has 10 hours in the game and is already attempting one down)
then again, if u dont wana get kicked why not just host?

Being against something doesn't mean you're concerned. I always host or play with friends. I'm against ngowotowoerqwfhxbcdw because it's against the rules. Ruinning someone's experience, that is.
people are selfish.
as for it ruining other people's experience, its again a tool that serves as the host to make his life easier, if the host dosnt want to play with people that run around with ICTV and rouge its his choice

in my honest opinion ovk decided to give the host power thus this is just a mod that uses that power to its maximum potential, if ovk one day remove the kick feature then we can pick bones with NGBTDW

(12-05-2016, 10:38 PM)Alcat101 Wrote: I think NGBTDW problem will be gone if it have no other setting to block ppl like deployable, perk deck, armor, etc

And just leave out hour filter and the essential that keeps new player from ruining a DW/1D public heist.

if u are gona change anything just ask him to make it so it dosnt insta kick but instead inform the host about why they should be kicked, easy as that, make everyone's day harder, host now has to press 3 extra buttons and the client now has to endure loading in to get kicked

i dont see any benefits to that to be honest but its really up to u
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#19
So there's been a talk around the staff about this NGBTDW mod.
And the result is that the staff for now will not take any action. The mod could be better however.
It's a tool to help host filter out player, and host have all the power on their lobby. This mod is just streamlining the process of that.
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#20
Reopened. Some people are concerned about this still and wish to discuss it.
It might be advisable that people who find the mod questionable contact its author.

At this point unfortunately the author of Better Bots has refused to stop manipulating NGBTDW and acted quite inappropriately. So currently Better Bots is not available. Again, contact the author if you wish to make yourself heard.
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